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Post by The Doctor on Oct 22, 2006 2:28:09 GMT -5
I don't quite know why people say they hate American dub over Japanese. I mean, they're both quite good IMHO; they're just... incompatible. They both have good storylines and a few decent ideas... it's just that the stories don't often match. It's like SM English is an entirely different cartoon from SM Japanese. Anyone get what I'm saying?
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Post by Breeze on Oct 22, 2006 3:38:56 GMT -5
i like more the dubbed... i mean i like the voices and all this stuff.
but i hate that they cut some parts from sm
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Post by Roses Ablaze on Oct 22, 2006 6:50:10 GMT -5
The acting and voices in the dub make me cringe. And shouldn't this go in the anime section?
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Post by Larry Laffer on Oct 22, 2006 7:01:51 GMT -5
Actualy I didn't get a chance to hear the american dubb but I know that it can't be worse then the romanian dubb. Well at least they didn't cut it here.
And Roseblaze: this is Sailor Moon related so *shrugs*
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Post by thereisnospoon on Oct 22, 2006 11:20:50 GMT -5
And shouldn't this go in the anime section? Done! Anyway, I find the original superior. It flows better, the voices are very appropriate to their respective characters, and nothing gets cut! Also, the jokes are funnier, because the dub either changed regional jokes and/or just made them into very unfunny. Original > Dub
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Post by arwentheelf02 on Oct 22, 2006 12:44:01 GMT -5
I am a FOREVER FAN of sub over dub. With dubs...
1. You lose the original acting, which is bound to be superior because of the original directing ALONE (never mind the fact that the American SM voices SUCKED) 2. You lose any cultural references (but with subs, you can just put translator's notes so the audience can *gasp* actually learn something!!!) 3. You lose anything they decide to cut out or edit (sometimes for no reason at all...*cough*) 4. You lose the original story, which is COMPLETELY unacceptable. 5. You lose the original music, which has superior singing and actual emotional pull!!! (Stuff like "She's Got the Power" makes me cringe...) 6. You lose what the original script actually says, for the simple reason that it's hard to dub something word for word becaue the voices won't match up. (Whereas, with subs, you can give the script word for word and therefore give the original meaning)
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Post by Larry Laffer on Oct 22, 2006 12:54:15 GMT -5
Plus that when you're talking about dubbing you may not get all the voices *kicks the table the PC stands on* I mean here in Romania when they last aired Sailor Moon(Cuz they don't air no other decent anime on the public TV), more than 10 years ago they had(and still have) only ONE person to dubb. A woman pretending to be: -A(or more) junior high-school girl(s) -A(or more) man -A(or more cat(s) -A(or more) daemon(s) Well you get the picture!
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Post by SeraFirefly on Oct 22, 2006 14:30:24 GMT -5
The dub is horrible! The voice acting, the slang, the cuts, and the horrible cgi graphics that Dic added in the first two seasons, blech!
What annoys me the most is that the dub turned our cute, ditzy, innocent Usagi... into a nasally idiotic bitch who apparently is trying to sound like she's from da 'hood.(dawg? WTF!?)
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Post by Desi on Oct 22, 2006 14:40:18 GMT -5
The dub is horrendous but I can't hate on it that much because it's what got me in SM (and anime as a whole) in the first place.
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Post by Tritogeneia on Oct 22, 2006 16:01:07 GMT -5
Plus that when you're talking about dubbing you may not get all the voices *kicks the table the PC stands on* I mean here in Romania when they last aired Sailor Moon(Cuz they don't air no other decent anime on the public TV), more than 10 years ago they had(and still have) only ONE person to dubb. A woman pretending to be: -A(or more) junior high-school girl(s) -A(or more) man -A(or more cat(s) -A(or more) daemon(s) Well you get the picture! LOL God yes do I get the picture! LOL That's how cartoons were in Croatia before...I watched He Man with that kind of dub...one woman reading absolutely every role! In the same voice and tone all the time! LOL
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Post by Roses Ablaze on Oct 22, 2006 19:53:55 GMT -5
And Roseblaze: this is Sailor Moon related so *shrugs* But only the anime. The Sailor Moon general discussion is for topics that can apply to more than one medium of Sailor Moon.
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Post by Sailor Astera on Oct 22, 2006 20:25:29 GMT -5
I don't mind the dub that much. The voices don't really bother me (cept Terri Hawkes) and I think some of the slang they use is really funny. (Personal favorite, Chibiusa: "GO GET EM MOON-MAMA!" XD)
I like watching the anime with the subtitles on but playing the English track. That lets me compare the Japanese to what the dub has which can be really funny. XD
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Post by arwentheelf02 on Oct 22, 2006 23:12:27 GMT -5
The dub is horrendous but I can't hate on it that much because it's what got me in SM (and anime as a whole) in the first place. That may be true, but you can respect it for it opening the door of anime for you but still hate the quality. For instance, I really don't like the quality of PGSM, but I respect that it has a different take on the first season than I might have. Some points are quality, but that's a whole 'nother essay...
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Post by Desi on Oct 23, 2006 7:54:38 GMT -5
The dub is horrendous but I can't hate on it that much because it's what got me in SM (and anime as a whole) in the first place. That may be true, but you can respect it for it opening the door of anime for you but still hate the quality. For instance, I really don't like the quality of PGSM, but I respect that it has a different take on the first season than I might have. Some points are quality, but that's a whole 'nother essay... Which is why I put "The dub is horrendous" is the first place.
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Post by Jess-chan on Oct 23, 2006 10:10:46 GMT -5
I can't stand the dub anymore. I'll only watch Sailor Moon subbed. I hated that they cut out so much from the dub and the voice acting was terrible.
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