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Post by Bleu Eyed Brunette on Jun 16, 2009 14:53:10 GMT -5
Another thread got me wondering, say the Dark Kingdom didn't exist (yay plot holes!) and everything's peachy in the Silver Millennium.
If Queen Serenity doesn't age past 18, where does that leave Princess Serenity? I mean, from what we see in the anime, Princess Serenity doesn't fight, hence the whole almost getting her face torn off by Beryl.
So, if that's the case, what exactly is her role? I mean, if her mum never ages past 18, I kind of assume her powers don't suddenly fade either. Will the princess remain a princess forever and never assume her mum's throne?
Somehow I have a feeling that when Princess marries, she would become queen... but I don't know. And we know the whole thing with Endymion turned into a hairy mess. But pretend for a moment that thing's are okay between the earth and the moon and they get married, so then would she become the queen?
But I assume that her mum still would be able to use her powers, since Sailormoon and Chibimoon both have powers at the same time (but then again Chibimoon's power hasn't matured).
I'm just envisioning all these eternally young princess/queen dumpling heads crowding the moon palace after like... 2,000 years pass. lol
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Post by celestialchild on Jun 18, 2009 12:16:25 GMT -5
Well, I image there was always two ideas behind the heir to the Moon Kingdom (and likely many others). One being that "in case something happens" to the current monarch, there would be no power dispute as to the succession. In the case of the Silver Millennium, they also needed someone with essentially "magical moon powers" in order to aid in their defense.
The fact that it is always referenced that each Queen shall one day be replaced by their daughters leads me to believe that they probably do eventually die somehow. Perhaps, according to the manga mythos, they might choose to voluntarily return to the Cauldron. Or perhaps they contribute to the combined spirit of the moon, or something. Or maybe they just chose to age and die. The end of the manga seems to make this clear that one day they will "be gone", but the hows and whys of that are a mystery.
The Sailor Crystals seem to make things more complex though, because of the idea that the senshi can find rebirth again and again. It's possible that they can die, but their crystals are somehow preserved, and perhaps eventually they shall return. I think this is among the most logical explanations for Sailor Cosmos if in fact she is the future of Sailor Moon, because there is no indication that she is necessarily Usagi. Perhaps she is another incarnation of the same person, that eventually became Sailor Cosmos.
So many mysteries, but I guess that is part of the lasting appeal of Sailor Moon, haha!
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Post by blueknight on Jun 18, 2009 13:13:59 GMT -5
What CelestialChild has said about them voluntarily returning to the cauldron sounds possible. I don't know. I haven't gotten that far (hopefully the translators at manga one will get to the rest of the series).
If the Dark Kingdom never existed and Princess Serenity got married to Endymion I would guess that she'd move to Earth and become queen there. Endymion is prince of Earth so he'll later become king of Earth.
Still I think that, as I may have said in a previous thread, the villains of Sailor Moon are like predators in the animal kingdom. They come, kill off a few characters and reduce the princess population
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Post by celestialchild on Jun 18, 2009 13:28:15 GMT -5
The only problem with the Princess Serenity + Endymion thing, is that I was under the impression their romance was forbidden. Perhaps I am not remembering it so well... was this simply because the Earth Kingdom was under the influence of Beryl & Company, or was it something established even before that? I've always thought that perhaps Queen Serenity's lack of husband was a sign that Moonie peoples continued the royal line through more... cosmic means. (hence, what was alluded to in the last chapters of Sailor Moon Stars). By the way, blueknight, if you don't mind downloading zip files, the entire translated manga that is now out of print can be found at Neo Nobility. It would still be good to follow One Manga though if they are doing the new translation themselves, because you might get a different interpretation of events. |
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Post by blueknight on Jun 18, 2009 13:50:58 GMT -5
Serenity's and Endymion's relationship was forbidden but I think we are looking at this as if Beryl and her group didn't exist and the moon and earth was never against each other. I've always thought that perhaps Queen Serenity's lack of husband was a sign that Moonie peoples continued the royal line through more... cosmic means. (hence, what was alluded to in the last chapters of Sailor Moon Stars). That's an interesting thought. It is possible. Also, thanks for the website suggestion I'll consider it. |
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Post by Sailor Cybertron on Jun 18, 2009 21:27:22 GMT -5
The only problem with the Princess Serenity + Endymion thing, is that I was under the impression their romance was forbidden. Perhaps I am not remembering it so well... was this simply because the Earth Kingdom was under the influence of Beryl & Company, or was it something established even before that? From what I remember, their romance was forbidden because the people of the moon were supposed to watch over and protect the people of Earth... but not interact with them. I don't think the people on Earth were supposed to know about the Moon Kingdom. |
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Post by engineer on Jun 19, 2009 3:05:47 GMT -5
Even if the relationship was not forbidden and Beryl did not interfere, Serenity would outlive Endymion.
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Post by serefan on Jun 25, 2009 14:44:17 GMT -5
I have a hard time imagining any of the moon girls being able to reach old age and dying... there is the fact that Chaos, unfortunately, will never leave them alone, so sooner or later he or one of his children will do away with the queen... and sometimes even the princess as well. About the time they become queens, like someone pointed out I'd guess their powers would need to be mature in order for that to happen, and once again the threat of Chaos and his lackeys is one of the few things that can make that happen.
Anyway, did you notice that though we are told in the second manga arc that it's the Silver Crystal's power what gives longevity to the people of the future, in the Infinity arc we learn that it's the Holy Grail what helps Neo Queen Serenity keep her youth? How curious...
Not necesarily, because then it probably would have happened the same as it happened in cannon: Endymion would marry Serenity, therefore becoming a member of the Silver Millennium, therefore he would have the same priviledges that she grants her senshi, may be more as he would become a member of the first royal family, which means being granted longevity by the Silver Crystal. Remember that according to the myth of Selene and Endymon, Selene asked the gods to grant immortality to Endymion, so she could be with him forever.
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Post by LadyCrystal on Jun 25, 2009 15:46:26 GMT -5
Even if the relationship was not forbidden and Beryl did not interfere, Serenity would outlive Endymion. He has a "Sailor Crystal" too. So, he wouldn't really outlive her. |
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Post by blueknight on Jun 25, 2009 17:14:25 GMT -5
I have a hard time imagining any of the moon girls being able to reach old age and dying... there is the fact that Chaos, unfortunately, will never leave them alone, so sooner or later he or one of his children will do away with the queen... and sometimes even the princess as well. About the time they become queens, like someone pointed out I'd guess their powers would need to be mature in order for that to happen, and once again the threat of Chaos and his lackeys is one of the few things that can make that happen. That's the whole villain as a predator thing. Without them the world would be overrun by a bunch of super-powered princes and princesses. Not that that isn't entirely a bad thing. |
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Post by engineer on Jun 25, 2009 23:55:30 GMT -5
Endymion would marry Serenity, therefore becoming a member of the Silver Millennium, therefore he would have the same priviledges that she grants her senshi, may be more as he would become a member of the first royal family, which means being granted longevity by the Silver Crystal. Remember that according to the myth of Selene and Endymon, Selene asked the gods to grant immortality to Endymion, so she could be with him forever. To do that she would need the Silver Crystal, which her mother has. So its really up to her to make that call or when Princess Serenity succeeds her on the throne. When was Chaos referred to as a "he"? |
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Post by serefan on Jul 3, 2009 22:35:18 GMT -5
When was Chaos referred to as a "he"?
Only in fanfiction, probably... Tend to rub off on you.
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