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Post by Sailor Cybertron on Jul 24, 2008 16:50:23 GMT -5
Oddly enough, this thought struck me while I was driving home today.
All of Sailor Moon's attacks always need an item to make them work, whether it's her tiara, a wand, or the ginzuishou. While all of the other senshi are able to produce attacks on their own, Sailor Moon doesn't create any without an item to help her. Of course, Sailor Moon Kick and Sailor Body Attack don't really count because those aren't magic and even I could do those. (If I didn't want to look like a lunatic, anyway.)
Anyway, my point: is Sailor Moon able to attack magically without an item? No wands, tiaras, enchanted rocks, etc.? Even her supersonic screams used her odango shields to amplify them.
Just a little something to think about.
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Post by sentaiwarrior on Jul 24, 2008 16:55:24 GMT -5
Well she wasn't really a Senshi to begin with, she was just a princess meaning that I don't think she has her own raw power to begin with and needs magical assistance. However when she reaches Neo Queen Serenity and passes on her "magical rock"(fun to say ) to Chibi-usa I guess you could say she has her own power there.
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Post by serefan on Jul 24, 2008 22:58:25 GMT -5
Hm, well there's always this scene in the anime at the end of Sailor Moon S, in episode 126. It's after they defeat Pharaoh 90, that they're standing at the crater left by Pharaoh 90, and Uranus and Neptune want to "test" if Moon is really the Messiah. So Neptune grabs her and twists her arms behind her back, holding her captive, and in front of them Uranus throws herlf at her like she's gonna kick her when they collide. But Moon (whose arms are being twisted behind her back so she can't pull out her staff or whatever) she suddenly looks up and radiates this whitish golden glow from her entire body, which pushes Neptune off of her and allows her to jump out of the way... resulting in Uranus colliding with Neptune, rather clumsily instead. Then Uranus and Neptune kneel before her and say: "Nothing less from the Princess. No... the future Neo Queen Serenity. We've finally been shown your true powers"
That as for the anime. As for the manga, she's always the one that "creates" new weapons: she even creates a new tiara in the first season/arc of the manga, before getting the Silver Crystal, cause she forgot to get back the previous one after throwing it at Jadeite. Then in Stars, she fends off Galaxia, who's sending huge waves of power at her, without even transforming to Sailor Moon. And later on, when her brainwashing scouts are attacking her, her staff breakes and she uses her power to mend it, brainwashed Venus sends her Love and Gallactica Shock at her and Sailor Moon opposes it with a blast of her own, coming out of her hands, and not her staff .
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Post by sentaiwarrior on Jul 25, 2008 9:22:27 GMT -5
I suppose the first one means that she is gaining her true power due to the comment made by Uranus and Neptune.
But wait, didn't she always have the Silver Crystal inside her?
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Post by serefan on Jul 25, 2008 15:26:07 GMT -5
In that scene of the anime in Episode 126 she wasn't using the Silver Crystal, at least not that we could tell.
As for the manga, yes, it was inside her the whole time and that's why some fans think she was able to do things like creating that new tiara out of thin air (more like she was despairing at having lost her previous one, and then she felt very warm all of a sudden and the new tiara appeared suddenly on her forehead).
However, in the manga the Silver Crystal is certainly not just some object separate from her own powers (and I'm not even certain it is all that way either in the anime). It is her very star-seed, sailor crystal, soul, spirit or whatever. And all the other scouts/senshi also have their own, only they don't become the wiser about it until the Death Moon Circus saga (I don't think their guardians and Saturn "gave" them to them, they just made them come out of the girls' bodies IMO)... That's why I'm firmly convinced that, in the manga at least, Chibimoon has her own Silver Crystal, and not Neo Queen Serenity's (and I think it's more fun that way ;D)
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Post by sentaiwarrior on Jul 25, 2008 15:52:13 GMT -5
I am about to star a debate whether or not they always had their Sailor Crystals but I won't, since it already happened on a different message board.
I wasn't implying about the Silver Crystal when I was talking about that episode from the anime.
As for it being her Star Seed I can't agree. I can agree it did become a Sailor Crystal, but not her Star Seed. If it was then how was she able to pass it down to her daughter and then not have one. As for it being a Sailor Crystal, I think it became in when it evolved. It was called the Silver Crystal until it evolved into the Silver "Moon" Crystal. Well that is my speculation atleast.
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Post by serefan on Jul 25, 2008 20:35:57 GMT -5
Oh. Well, the whole point of me mentioning the scene in episode 126 is that she didn't always need an item (staff or whatever), so may be you're right and her true powers were awakening, but who knows?
As for the star-seed thing -without trying to get into a heated debate, because it's just my point of view- sailor crystals are described as a kind of star seeds in the manga... meaning all sailor crystals are star seeds, and not all star seeds are sailor crystals (Phobos and Deimos', Luna's and Artemis' starseeds, for example, are described as not being sailor crystals, but close enough) If Takeuchi wanted us to believe the Silver Crystal was a sailor crystal, but not a star seed, I think she would have made a distinction. I understand if people have other opinion, and I in fact used to share that theory before I read the manga, but after reading it I started seeing the manga version as a completely different thing.
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Post by sentaiwarrior on Jul 25, 2008 21:03:58 GMT -5
No, I was only talking about the Silver Crystal. Never mind, I don't fell like typing my whole theory out.
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Post by serefan on Jul 25, 2008 22:17:07 GMT -5
Some people have the theory that the Silver Crystal bonded with Usagi's star seed, and then went and bonded with Chibiusa's starseed. I think it's a great theory, even if I don't completely share it. But I'm aware that it exists, so every time I write about the Silver Crystal in my fanfics I try to leave it ambiguous, just like the manga did.... That's even *more* fun than taking a position in favor of one theory (at least in fanfics), and it suits my purposes as a fanfic writer, of keeping the mystery. Seriously, I think we fans of Sailor Mon could even start our own pseudo-science with all the blank spaces both the anime and manga left out.
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Post by sentaiwarrior on Jul 25, 2008 22:21:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I know what you mean. There is so much more then just the Sailor Crystal debate. Like the Holy Grail, Their Castles, and some other stuff.
Actually that sounds like a fun thing to do. We should have a thread to post theories about Sailor Moon.
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Post by AmyAnn on Jul 27, 2008 9:27:16 GMT -5
I always saw it as her powerup. The other senshi have very good attacks but Sailor Moon is always the one to finally destroy them so I always thought of it in that way. Also, remember Saturn and Pluto use their staff/glaive too when attacking (I never understood the twirly thing Saturn does with her glaive...)
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